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In this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Ed Welch about the relationship between discipleship and counseling. We explore the similarities and differences between the two, and emphasize the importance of understanding when to seek counseling versus when to seek discipleship. We also discuss the generational differences in mental health language and how to help individuals reform their thinking about counseling.

Welch stresses the importance of having a wise and loving friend, and suggests that pastors continue to meet with individuals and invite them to speak openly about their struggles. Overall, this episode highlights the need for a culture where it is natural to speak about our needs and to reach out for help, and where pastors communicate that neediness is normal and that we always need Jesus.

We hope you enjoy the conversation.


Books mentioned:

When People Are Big and God Is Small: Overcoming Peer Pressure, Codependency, and the Fear of Man – Ed Welch

Side by Side: Walking with Others in Wisdom and Love – Ed Welch

Caring for One Another: 8 Ways to Cultivate Meaningful Relationships – Ed Welch


This episode of This vs. That is sponsored by:

⁠⁠P&R Publishing⁠⁠ – Edward Welch’s groundbreaking book ⁠⁠When People Are Big and God Is Small⁠⁠ has sold more than a quarter million copies since it was first released and has helped countless people in their struggles with codependency, peer pressure, and fear of man. This spring, P&R Publishing is pleased to announce the release of a comprehensively revised new edition. Learn how to need people less and love people more in this important update to a classic work of biblical counseling. Available wherever books are sold.

⁠⁠⁠The Missions Course⁠⁠⁠ – We believe God has an important role for you – and The Church – to play in The Great Commission. Don’t know what The Great Commission is? That’s alright! The Missions Course is a 6-week, online study that reveals God’s heart for the nations and invites you to play your part in it. We’ve designed this course to tuck nicely in-between classes, while you’re making dinner, or on your daily commute.  Missions isn’t just for them, it’s for you too! Use the code ANCHOREDHOPE to take $10 off your registration. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more and register today.

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