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On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into the topic of Divine Sovereignty vs. Toxic Positivity. We discuss the trending phrase of toxic positivity and its impact on our lives, and why it's important to take a step back and consider whether we're truly trusting in God's sovereignty or just trying to be positive. We also explore the importance of understanding the context and contour of our relationships when ministering to those who are suffering. Join us for this insightful and thought-provoking conversation.

Jared Wilson serves as assistant professor of Pastoral Ministry and Author in Residence at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He's the General Editor of For the Church and also the author of numerous books including Gospel Wakefulness, The Gospel Driven Church, and most recently, Love Me Anyway: How God's Perfect Love Fulfills Our Deepest Longings.

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